Todd Bishop, TechFlash; Ed Bott, ZDNet; Kip Kniskern, Liveside; Rafael Rivera, Within Windows; Paul Thurrott, Windows Supersite; and Tom Warren, Neowin; and Lengthy Zheng, Istartedsomething — and yours truly–did a group blog of the first PDC keynote.
Here;s the live blog transcript (speakers: Ray Ozzie,
Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise, Amitabh Srivastava, Bob Muglia and David Thompson):
8:04 Lengthy Zheng:
8:04 Lengthy Zheng: Hello all and welcome to the liveblog.
8:04 Lengthy Zheng: Your hosts are, Ed Bott ( Paul Thurrott ( Kip Kniskern ( Mary Jo Foley ( Rafael Rivera ( Tom Warren ( Todd Bishop ( and Lengthy Zheng (
8:04 Tom W - Neowin.net: Good morning all 8:05 Paul: Good morning all.
8:06 Rafael Rivera: Aloha! We;re blogging about Windows 8 right?
8:06 [Comment From Joel]
Hi, guys - thanks for doing this. Have fun! 8:06 [Comment From Brandon LeBlanc]
Good morning…and stuff. 8:07 [Comment From Rahul]
No silly, Windows 9 8:07 [Comment From Matt]
Yes thanks all of you fro doing this! Good to see you here as well Brandon.. 8:07 [Comment From Jcool]
Hey Paul, try not to mention the iPhone too many times. 8:07 [Comment From Tom Riley]
Is the Cloud OS keynote part of this main one now? 8:07 Long Zheng: @Tom Riley: I think cloud OS will be a big part of this keynote.
8:08 [Comment From Carl]
Will we get photos through the keynote? 8:08 Long Zheng: @Carl: I;ll be taking lots of pictures
8:08 [Comment From ZippyV]
Is there a videofeed where we can follow this? 8:08 Long Zheng: @ZippyV: Check my blog, the links are there
8:09 Long Zheng:
8:09 Long Zheng: Hall filling up
8:09 Rafael Rivera: @Emmanuel: Definitely tired. Lengthy is very demanding of us… 8:10 [Comment From Freak180]
Are we going to see any pictures of
windows 7? 8:10 Long Zheng: Not today Freak180.
Windows 7 is all Tuesday
8:10 [Comment From Charles]
Live stream: 8:11 Paul: Where do I file my W-2? I think the new guy (Todd) covers that.
8:12 [Comment From Tom Riley]
Loving the “
Windows 7 is actually Windows XP?” banner. I guess MS want to keep clear of the…V word…. :P 8:12 [Comment From Nero]
Do you think the cloud OS is related to the major Mesh update this week? 8:12 Long Zheng: @Nero: Maybe!
8:12 [Comment From ZippyV]
Room looks not so big 8:12 Lengthy Zheng: @ZippyV: Just a little dark
8:12 [Comment From ricky]
how long untill it starts? 8:12 Lengthy Zheng: @ricky: 8.30am
8:14 Long Zheng: Side note: Comments are manually inserted into the liveblog. Thanks for everyone;s comments, but I can;t add all of them. We do see all of them though.
8:14 Paul: The
Windows 7 banner in the entrance to the LACC reminds me of Windows 2000, not XP. It;s got the same solid and hollow squares.
8:15 Rafael Rivera: To those playing along from LA, the press seating will be opening up to general public (not filled). Grab your seats now!
8:15 Long Zheng: Music is still going…
8:16 Long Zheng: I just want to thank everyone for coming. It;s pretty astonishing how many people joined in so little time.
8:16 [Comment From Jay]
is the music over there the same music playing on the video stream? 8:16 Rafael Rivera: @Jay: Is it retarded? Yes.
8:16 Paul: I believe we;re going to see Windows Server 2008 R2 and Cloud OS today…
8:17 Paul: Raf;s just mad they used his playlist
8:17 Rafael Rivera: Yes, my playlist consists purely of Windows Sample music. Like humans do baby!
8:19 Long Zheng:
8:19 Lengthy Zheng: Still filling
8:19 Paul: ooh pictures. Its the geek of the week awards. that guy in the front is going to win [crosses fingers]
8:19 Lengthy Zheng: Music stopped
8:19 Long Zheng: Too soon, started again.
8:20 Paul: Lengthy: First time at PDC? It starts at 8:30. And Microsoft is never early!
8:21 Paul: @redx: Not that you know of. :|
8:22 Lengthy Zheng:
8:23 Long Zheng: Channel 9 guy
8:23 [Comment From Alpha]
I like pie 8:23 Rafael Rivera: @Alpha: Indeed.
8:23 Lengthy Zheng: WIfi is still up. The signal gods are pleased. I sacrificed much last night.
8:24 [Comment From george]
this might sound stupid but can we see
windows 7 today? 8:24 Lengthy Zheng: @george: No. No
Windows 7 today.
8:24 Ed Bott: Hello world! 8:25 Paul: Yeah, don;t expect anything on the Win7 front today. Silly. But there it is.
8:25 Paul: Hey Ed.
8:25 [Comment From steve]
how lengthy does the keynote last? 8:25 Lengthy Zheng: @Steve: 2 hours
8:25 [Comment From Michael]
Hopefully your music in the hall is better than the stuff coming through the web. 8:25 Lengthy Zheng: @Michael: Don;t think so
8:25 [Comment From NickHodge]
Coveritlive is full of win 8:26 [Comment From Tom]
Everyone forget
Windows 7. “Cloud OS” is the way forward 8:26 [Comment From Ichiro]
I really wanna know if the new “Cloud OS” will sit on top of Windows or be independent OS? 8:26 [Comment From Brian]
Are Live Mesh announcements coming later in the week as well? 8:26 Long Zheng: @Brian: Mesh should be today.
8:27 Long Zheng: “Good morning and welcome. Begin in a few minutes”
8:27 Rafael Rivera: 8:27 Rafael Rivera: Press room this morning.
8:27 Rafael Rivera: Paul is the ape on the left.
8:27 Paul: But what a fine looking example of the species
8:28 [Comment From Nick]
Paul you didn;t bring your mac book? lol 8:28 [Comment From AndrewM]
Where is Mary Jo?!?!? 8:28 Lengthy Zheng: Still missing MJ. Tom Warren.
8:28 Lengthy Zheng: And Kip.
8:28 Paul: MJ is here. Tom is in keynote hall.
8:28 Long Zheng: And our latest contestant, Todd Bishop.
8:28 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
The unwashed masses at NotAtPDC.com conference, tweets at 8:28 Paul: He is in keynote hall as well. (Todd, that is.)
8:29 [Comment From steve]
8:29 [Comment From Vik]
Just checking. Are you guys getting my comments? 8:29 Rafael Rivera: @Vik: Yes sir.
8:29 [Comment From Ste (Neowin)]
out of interest are these filtered? 8:29 Lengthy Zheng: Not filtered, but we have to manually promote them.
8:30 [Comment From Daniel]
Live stream for people that don;t know is available here: 8:30 [Comment From PayneX]
is this austin powers or james bond music? 8:30 Rafael Rivera: @All: Comments are all ##################. MJ says hello!
8:30 Lengthy Zheng: We have 424 unique viewers right now. Thanks all. This is awesome fun.
8:31 [Comment From Sebastian]
“Starts in 5 minutes” is being said in the webcast 8:31 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
What is this keynote about? 8:31 Lengthy Zheng: Cloud OS, Mesh
8:31 [Comment From Sarah Perez]
hello to my favorite bloggers - thank you thank you for liveblogging this! 8:32 LiveSide: Barcalounger section checking in
8:32 Paul: Windows Azure?? Pfftt.
8:32 Paul: You gotta love “ass-pirational” names.
8:32 Lengthy Zheng: “Good morning”
8:32 Lengthy Zheng: “About to begin”
8:32 Rafael Rivera: I hear the FCC coming…
8:33 Long Zheng: “Thank you” Thank you too.
8:33 [Comment From Dovella]
See here Paul 8:33 LiveSide: Lengthy Zheng: gangblogger secretary
8:33 [Comment From Martijn Brant]
Paul. Bad taste ;) 8:33 Long Zheng:
8:33 [Comment From kirb]
Paul: 8:33 Paul: Jerry P.!
8:33 [Comment From Mike B.]
Are we going to see Windows Mojave? :-P 8:33 Mary Jo Foley: i want to see the lounge chairs! 8:33 Rafael Rivera: @Mike: I hope so.
8:34 Long Zheng:
8:34 Long Zheng: Thank you sponsors
8:35 [Comment From Alex Wilks]
Rumour:Microsoft introduces cloud-based MIDI-Conference-Music-Composer 8:35 Ed Bott: Tap, tap, tap.. Is this thing on? 8:35 [Comment From Michael]
Got to feel sorry for AMD - it;s the last PDC they;ll ever see 8:36 Ed Bott: Wireless access by Yoyodyne, apparently. 8:36 Long Zheng: Lights down
8:37 Long Zheng: Ray Ozzie is on
8:37 Long Zheng: “Transformations..fundamentally embrace services.”
8:37 Paul: Ray is less whiny than Gates. I like that.
8:37 Lengthy Zheng: The first row of camera is crazy.
8:37 Rafael Rivera: Bloggers are less than 0.01% percent…
8:37 Ed Bott: Ozzie: A “turning point” and a “transformation” 8:37 Mary Jo Foley: I;m just glad Ozzie doesn;t wear a black turtleneck
8:38 Lengthy Zheng:
8:38 Paul: No, thank YOU Ray.
8:38 [Comment From Justin]
wonder if they will announce the Microsoft Online Services (hosted Exchange, Sharepoint, Live Meeting, etc) 8:38 Lengthy Zheng: To many photographers “no more flash” means more flash.
8:39 LiveSide: took a while to get back in, internet slowed down ;p
8:39 Mary Jo Foley: I think they definitely will talk about online services, since Thompson is here 8:39 Long Zheng:
8:39 Paul: three things that kept ray betting on MS: MS builds its own key platform apps (which verify the platform) …
8:39 Ed Bott: “Placing bets on Microsoft” 8:39 Paul: 2) MS; key platforms are popular, stable foundations
8:39 LiveSide: Nice haircut, Ray
8:40 Ed Bott: Do you feel lucky, developers? 8:40 Long Zheng:
8:40 Paul: 3) Bill and Steve always understood that to be successful, partners needed to be succesful too
8:40 Long Zheng: First row is crazy
8:40 Paul: The press room is very calm.
8:40 LiveSide: Press are boring, Paul
8:40 [Comment From Dion]
heyyyyyyyyy u guys are like 20 sec ahead of me seeing him say it 8:40 Long Zheng: Netconnected devices. Lots of talk.
8:40 Paul: I;m watching the keynote not the press
8:41 Lengthy Zheng: “Best of software, with best access of services.”
8:41 Paul: Ozzie: All-up, end to end Software + Services strategy
8:41 Lengthy Zheng: Activation codes for new services!
8:41 Ed Bott: Mapping out their strategy, end to end 8:41 Mary Jo Foley: Tomorrow is about the front end: Client OS, tools, runtimes, services
8:41 Lengthy Zheng: Tomorrow they talk about client OS.
8:41 Lengthy Zheng:
8:42 Mary Jo Foley: Today is all about back end and platforms 8:42 Rafael Rivera: DVDs will have Windows “7″ Build 6801
8:42 Lengthy Zheng: Ray reads “Cloud thing vastly overblown”
8:42 Paul: Ray: “this cloud thing is vastly overblown”, critics say.
8:42 Ed Bott: No iPhones or Androids on the screen full of devices 8:42 [Comment From Justin]
is that the M3 build? 8:42 Rafael Rivera: @Justin: Yes.
8:42 LiveSide: ‘this cloud thing” might be overblown, snipe at Oracle 8:43 Paul: It;s the Sims! 8:43 Long Zheng: Virtualization on screen
8:43 Paul: Sims Datacenter Edition 2008
8:43 Lengthy Zheng: “Inwardly facing solutions”
8:43 LiveSide: Easy on the pics, Long, you;re kicking me out :P
8:43 Long Zheng:
8:44 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
How come you guys are reporting things earlier than the MS video stream? Is the streaming delayed??? 8:44 LiveSide: externalization of IT
8:44 Rafael Rivera: Delayed due to FCC regs. You know, there might be a wardrobe malfunction…
8:44 Long Zheng: Far richer forms of customer interaction…
8:44 Long Zheng: Forums, wikis, blogs
8:44 Paul: I hope he gets specific soon. This is booooorrring.
8:44 Lengthy Zheng:
8:45 LiveSide: The sims attack Redmond 8:45 Long Zheng:
8:45 Ed Bott: Graphic shows Redmond as center of universe 8:45 Long Zheng: Web presence critical to web business
8:45 Paul: Its not just a graphic. It;s a literal representation
8:45 Rafael Rivera: (reminds me of Intel;s IT Manager game…)
8:45 Mary Jo Foley: Previous separate roles of IT pros and developers now need to work together
8:46 LiveSide: we;re ‘enmeshed” 8:46 [Comment From Dave Bost]
You guys need a geography lesson…that;s purely canada taking over the world 8:46 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
Paul said Gates is more whiny.. look at Ray! 8:46 Paul: Maarten just said that Ozzie sounds like the Gates-type guy from the movie “Antitrust.” he;s right.
8:47 Lengthy Zheng: Earthquakes, power outages, could cause problems
8:47 LiveSide: ack - Live Mesh and backbacon, eh? 8:47 Rafael Rivera: That;d be Tim Robbins Paul…
8:47 Paul: He;s going to announce Microsoft Skynet. i can feel it. 8:47 Lengthy Zheng: Could have multiple datacenters. Not the best idea…complicated…
8:47 Long Zheng: “Network latency issues”
8:47 Paul: @Smash: LOL. 8:48 [Comment From Smash]
It;s self aware. 8:48 LiveSide: network latency issues - this is a big deal, internally, too 8:48 Long Zheng:
8:48 Paul: He should say “this cloud thing” a few more times.
8:48 Lengthy Zheng: Things are different…build the web than within walls
8:48 [Comment From Alpha]
I has hands, I shows you them 8:48 Ed Bott: Betting on the cloud, big time 8:48 [Comment From Mike Galos]
Today they;re announcing that Azure is taking over as Chief Software Architect 8:49 LiveSide: we like “this cloud thing” 8:49 Lengthy Zheng:
8:49 Paul: @Mike, it will be a smooth transition… 8:49 Mary Jo Foley: The difference between the old “cloud” and the new “cloud” is serving up inward facing apps vs. outward facing apps
8:49 Mary Jo Foley: And that;s why you need a platform that can scale
8:49 Long Zheng: Web serving systems. “We;ve done them”
8:49 Rafael Rivera: @Picture: Defcon game?!
8:49 LiveSide: now we;re attacking Canada, whew 8:49 Paul: Blame Canada!
8:49 Lengthy Zheng: MSN, windows update, msdn, office online, Microsoft.com, Hotmail
8:50 Long Zheng:
8:50 Ed Bott: Alaska looks at risk as well. 8:50 Rafael Rivera: @Picture: Take note Hawaii doesn;t exist.
8:50 LiveSide: geopolitical and environmental issues etc 8:50 Lengthy Zheng: Antartica is not on the map. Polar bears get no service.
8:50 LiveSide: MS betting on their own expertise 8:50 Paul: They don;t get AT&T EDGE either.
8:51 Rafael Rivera: Wait, does EDGE work?
8:51 Long Zheng: Wifi is still up. Big thumbs up to Microsoft. They;ve done it.
8:51 [Comment From Nidonocu]
@Long: Polar bears live in the North Pole. Pengiuns live in the South. ;) 8:51 Paul: 20 minutes in … and Ray hasn;t said anything. he should write for the Engineering 7 blog.
8:51 LiveSide: Lengthy may take it down with his pic uploading, however 8:51 Ed Bott: you;ve jinxed it 8:51 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
Note that Iceland doesn;t count as a Business location 8:51 Mary Jo Foley: Tiers: First tier is PC on your desk
8:52 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
is it just me, or is Ozzie;s speach just one lengthy sentence with no end… 8:52 Rafael Rivera: Walter wins a prize.
8:52 Mary Jo Foley: Second tier is enterprise tier. Enterprise datacenters
8:52 Paul: He can have my “I;m a PC” t-shirt 8:52 [Comment From someone]
How can they say so much without saying much meaningful? 8:52 Mary Jo Foley: Third tier is external facing Web tier
8:52 [Comment From Andrew]
Can somebody wake me when he has finished? 8:52 Long Zheng: Infinite capacity? I think he;s not in sync with Comcast
8:52 Paul: dave cutler worked on cloud os .. good stuff
8:53 LiveSide: new web tier 8:53 Paul: new web tier … platform … used by Microsoft, developers …
8:53 Lengthy Zheng: Amazon, EC2
8:53 LiveSide: tip ofa hat to Bezos 8:53 Mary Jo Foley: The platform for cloud computing is…. tada….. an Amazon EC2 competitor
8:53 Long Zheng: Ray Ozzie tips hat to Amazon. Standing on shoulders (of giants).
8:53 [Comment From Jay C.]
I;m waiting for Mr. Smithers to come out next. 8:54 Paul: working for a few years for our own cloud computing platform … bedrock foundation for all MS consumer and business offerings 8:54 Lengthy Zheng: Announcing…
8:54 Ed Bott: A tip of the hat to Amazon, we;ll all be standing on their shoulders - that;s gonna hurt 8:54 Paul: announce a new service in the cloud … Windows Azure
8:54 Mary Jo Foley: the new service in the cloud is windows azure
8:54 LiveSide: Windows blue 8:54 Paul: [clapping]
8:54 Ed Bott: Polite applause 8:54 Paul: Windows offering on the Web tier
8:54 Lengthy Zheng: Logo coming soon…
8:54 Rafael Rivera: Windows Ashhzurreee
8:54 Mary Jo Foley: This is the web tier offering. So Red Dog is now Blue?
8:54 Paul: you might think of it as Windows in the cloud
8:54 Long Zheng: Lowest level foundation…
8:54 LiveSide: Windows logo get the live mesh blue glow 8:55 Todd Bishop: Acknowledged Amazon was in cloud first 8:55 Paul: high scale services, capabilties, scalable storage … automated service management system
8:55 Long Zheng:
8:55 Mary Jo Foley: Azure is definitely Red Dog
8:55 Paul: a new service based operating environment
8:55 [Comment From Jcool]
Love the hesitant applause. 8:55 LiveSide: A new service based operating environment 8:55 [Comment From Nidonocu]
Ooo.. pretty blue logo. Not that anyone will be about to pronounce Azure correctly. 8:55 Long Zheng: Utilize existing skills. Developers will be happy.
8:55 Lengthy Zheng:
8:56 Paul: they always utilize existing tools. same old, same old 8:56 Paul: This didn;t help Windows mobile from what I can tell.
8:56 Ed Bott: A fundamentally open environment 8:56 LiveSide: you would expect an open environment from Windows, lol 8:56 Lengthy Zheng: “Windows” Fundamentally open environment. Tools, languages, frameworks, runtimes. First party, third party.
8:56 Lengthy Zheng: Intend to “foster and grow”
8:56 Mary Jo Foley: @ Mike Galos: ah! So is how is Azure connected to Blue DB? 8:56 Long Zheng: Windows, not walls.
8:56 LiveSide: I dont; know about what the readers think, but this is fun 8:57 [Comment From ZippyV]
Is Azure a product you can use in a company? 8:57 Todd Bishop: Check the trademark filings … Strata and Cloud must have been problematic legally. 8:57 LiveSide: setting th stage for the next 50 years 8:57 Lengthy Zheng: World of parallel computing, horizontal scale.
8:57 Ed Bott: Did he say 50 years? Whoa… 8:57 Mary Jo Foley: Horizontal scale = Horizon
8:57 Lengthy Zheng: Azure comes to life at PDC.
8:57 Mary Jo Foley: anyone remember that code name (Kip?)
8:57 Lengthy Zheng: Is not software, on own servers.
8:58 Lengthy Zheng: Microsoft datacenter hosted. First in US. Soon Worldwide.
8:58 Paul: See it really is Skynet 8:58 Lengthy Zheng: CTP today.
8:58 Mary Jo Foley: Azure running in MS datacenters first. On outside servers later
8:58 Lengthy Zheng: Fraction of features.
8:58 Mary Jo Foley: CTP available today of Azure
8:58 Long Zheng: “Betting on Azure”
8:58 [Comment From bingmobo]
So wait, Azure is Strata? 8:58 Long Zheng: Looks like it
8:58 Paul: Microsoft is betting on Azure. Big headline there. “We use our own software.”
8:58 [Comment From Tim Sneath [MSFT]]
Quick pronunciation guide: say “as you;re”. The z is pronounced ‘zh;… 8:58 Ed Bott: Designed for iteration and rapid improvement 8:59 LiveSide: built for iteration, rapid deployment, and feedback 8:59 Mary Jo Foley: Azure is Red Dog. Red Dog is the low level OS
8:59 Rafael Rivera: Windows Azure Issues and Constraints 8:59 [Comment From Guest]
is live 8:59 Mary Jo Foley: It is a bit unclear what “Strata” was/is
8:59 Paul: Strata is almost certainly the API/Framework 8:59 Rafael Rivera: Windows Azure Tools for Microsoft Visual Studio
Windows Azure SDK
Azure Services Developer Portal
8:59 Lengthy Zheng: SQL server to the cloud
8:59 Rafael Rivera: (links ripped from blog as it;s hard to access now)
8:59 Long Zheng: Every layer has a blue logo.
8:59 Paul: SQL Services
8:59 Paul: SQL Server in the cloud
9:00 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
@ Rafael those links aren;t working 9:00 Long Zheng:
9:00 Lengthy Zheng: Live Services subsystem, tomorrow.
9:00 Rafael Rivera: Sorry guys, I don;t think those download links are live yet.
9:00 Ed Bott: Live services are bridge to user;s PCs and devices 9:00 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
Note the new logo for .NET 9:00 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
I see live mesh is part of azure 9:00 Paul: Azure Services Platform CTP released at PDC 9:00 LiveSide: ssds + sql reporting + sql analysis = SQL services 9:00 Paul: it is delivered in a little bit of mist, apparently.
9:01 Mary Jo Foley: ok. So I think Azure Platform (Azure plus the next layer of services) = Strata
9:01 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
Nice new logo 9:01 Long Zheng: Demos!
9:01 Ed Bott: 30 minutes of prologue 9:01 LiveSide: Enough of this high level talk 9:01 [Comment From Harrison Hoffman]
Nice job on the gangblogging guys. 9:01 LiveSide: best Ray Ozzie quote evar 9:01 Paul: This has been a lot of talk and very little info so far.
9:01 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
Please publish the links from the chat afterwards. Scrolling too fast. 9:02 Ed Bott: There;s that “betting on the platform” motif again 9:02 LiveSide: Amitabh Srivistava 9:02 Rafael Rivera: IMATUB
9:02 Ed Bott: More enthusiastic applause when Ray leaves stag than when he arrived 9:02 Mary Jo Foley: Srvistava is wearing red shoes! 9:02 Lengthy Zheng: Confirmed. “Project red dog”
9:02 Paul: but he can at least pronounce Azure
9:02 Mary Jo Foley: Red shoes = Red Dog
9:02 Rafael Rivera: Click your heels three times… There;s no place like the Cloud…
9:02 Paul: kernels are cool demos!
9:03 LiveSide: kernals don;t demo well 9:03 Paul: @Raf: LOL. Steve Jobs is the wicked witch of the west.
9:03 Long Zheng:
9:03 Rafael Rivera: Azure - Scalable hosting environment for you to deploy your apps in the cloud.
9:03 Ed Bott: @Paul: We;re gonna drop a data center on him 9:04 Paul:
9:04 Lengthy Zheng:
9:04 LiveSide: security is key and we provide multiple levels of security 9:04 LiveSide: close up of the shoes, please, Lengthy 9:04 Paul: are those 93 Jordans?
9:04 Ed Bott: Skynet! 9:05 [Comment From Saruhan]
More Shoe Shots! 9:05 [Comment From Paul (not Thurrott)]
those shoes are out of control! 9:05 Mary Jo Foley: Azure separates the app from the underlying OS. so both app and OS are managed separately
9:05 [Comment From Vik]
Wow - those are some red shoes. Wonder if someone won a bet against him. They don;t look as red in the video. 9:05 [Comment From ste hughes]
they match his suit perfectly 9:05 Mary Jo Foley: The fabric controller views everything as shared hardware resources
9:06 LiveSide: heart of Azure is Fabric Controller 9:06 Rafael Rivera: 9:06 Paul: So now Building 37 is “the fabric district”
9:06 Paul: @Raf. LOL!
9:06 LiveSide: LOL Raf!!! 9:07 [Comment From Luke]
He could do with some fabric controller on his shoes 9:07 Lengthy Zheng:
9:07 Ed Bott: They;re gonna drop a datacenter on you, Raf 9:07 Paul: New drinking game: Every time he says “interfaces,” ….
9:07 Lengthy Zheng: This is all very abstract. I don;t understand any of it.
9:07 Mary Jo Foley: Think of it in layers, Lengthy 9:07 Ed Bott: Welcome to PDC 9:08 Mary Jo Foley: bottom layer is Red Dog = Azure
9:08 Rafael Rivera: @Long: Agreed. I;m having a hard time grasping. The speaker;s accent doesn;t help either.
9:08 Mary Jo Foley: second layer is services: sql services, Live services (which i think is Live Mesh), .Net services (Zurich)
9:08 Mary Jo Foley: top layer is MS-hosted services: sharepoint online, exchange online, etc.
9:08 Mary Jo Foley: layers = strata
9:08 Lengthy Zheng:
9:09 Rafael Rivera: … and Mary Jo just makes it 100x easier to understand.
9:09 Lengthy Zheng: Code
9:09 Rafael Rivera: OOH CODE.
9:09 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
If they have done it right on this iteration, you graphically draw your application specs and deploy right to Azure. 9:09 Paul: Good thing they carted this stuff out on Day 1. I was worried getting up early this morning would be a waste of time. Ahem.
9:09 [Comment From Jeremy]
Thanks to Mary Jo for simplifying that 9:09 LiveSide: Blobs! 9:10 Paul: The first time I ever attended an event about BackOffice Server, I actually fell asleep during the Microsoft Mail portion. And I;m telling you. I will do it again.
9:10 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
what does Windows Azure mean for an average user? 9:10 LiveSide: LOL you should be in a Barca Lounger, Paul 9:10 Lengthy Zheng: @Imran: This is one of the problems of PDC. It;s not exactly for consumers.
9:10 Paul: Doesn;t matter. I cover server too. this is just dry.
9:10 Lengthy Zheng:
9:11 Lengthy Zheng: Managed and native code.
9:11 Ed Bott: Consumers shouldn;t be aware of Azure. It should just allow apps to work. 9:11 Lengthy Zheng: Hello world demo
9:11 Paul: Red Shoes!!!
9:11 LiveSide: Hello Azure 9:11 Rafael Rivera: Ok, what;s with the red shoes. Seriously?
9:11 Paul: someone lost a bet
9:12 Ed Bott: I feel like a genius. Hello world, indeed. 9:12 Ed Bott: Note the
Windows 7 common dialog he just used 9:12 Lengthy Zheng:
9:12 Rafael Rivera: Cloud templates in Visual Studio. Generates two projects — One containing metadata and another just an ASP.net application.
9:12 Paul: Ed: Hopefully Long got a shot of *that*
9:13 Rafael Rivera: “Hello Cloud” application being written live.
9:13 Paul: Where is Don Box when you need him?
9:13 Lengthy Zheng:
9:13 LiveSide: Nothing new in the Asp.net layer, using existing functionalty 9:13 Rafael Rivera: To debug Cloud services, pretend it;s a regular app.
9:13 Long Zheng:
9:13 Paul: offline access pretty much kills the number one complaint ppl have about this stuff 9:14 LiveSide: run the cloud on your laptop 9:14 Lengthy Zheng:
9:14 Long Zheng: How to deploy…
9:14 Rafael Rivera: (We just received print out of Azure press release in the press room)
9:14 Mary Jo Foley: You can test and debug locally. Then choose publish option. It packages your app. Takes your to Azure dev portal
9:14 LiveSide: Azure Service Developer Portal 9:15 Ed Bott: slick design for Azure Services Development Portal 9:15 Rafael Rivera: DNS provided by ASDP
9:15 Paul: What happens when the cloud blue screens? Who flips the switch?
9:16 Lengthy Zheng:
9:16 Long Zheng:
9:16 Ed Bott: Killer app 9:16 Tom W - Neowin.net: oh hai 9:16 Long Zheng: Bluehoo.com
9:16 Rafael Rivera: Bluehoo? Yoohoo?
9:17 Tom W - Neowin.net: mobile phones and PCs with BT as discovery mechanism. Nice 9:17 Rafael Rivera: Bluehoo social platform in the Cloud
9:17 Lengthy Zheng:
9:17 Paul: This is *just* like MobileMe! Oh wait, no it isn;t.
9:17 Long Zheng: It looks like Neopets…
9:17 Tom W - Neowin.net: Silverlight app showing same info as on your phone 9:17 [Comment From Saruhan]
Paul, Any Service that works..isnot like MobileME 9:18 Paul: Exactly
9:18 Lengthy Zheng: Everyone is laughing in the first row
9:18 Long Zheng:
9:18 Ed Bott: Ditto back here 9:18 Tom W - Neowin.net: Rafaels hoo will be pink then 9:18 Paul: They are completely losing me here.
9:18 Lengthy Zheng: Mobile app talks via REST interface
9:18 Tom W - Neowin.net: Is this the new facebook? Bouncing weird blogs that are blue or pink? 9:19 Tom W - Neowin.net: blobs* 9:19 Long Zheng: He danced…everyone claps, not the demo…
9:19 Paul: Boo! Boo!!
9:19 Mary Jo Foley: I think a demo of an enterprise cloud app might have been a little more interesting. Not everyone loves Web 2.0 …
9:19 Rafael Rivera: They put me dancing in the Bluehoo app!
9:19 Long Zheng: “No need to learn any new programming languages”
9:19 LiveSide: everything in C# 9:19 Lengthy Zheng: Demo proves…they can do this with existing skills
9:19 Ed Bott: Ummmmmm… Not sure this is really a killer app. 9:19 Rafael Rivera: They put me dancing in the Bluehoo app! [weird awkward pause]
9:19 Paul: They can;t write terrible apps in the languages they already know.
9:20 Paul: rather, “can”
9:20 [Comment From Morgan]
Raf can be the pink bug. 9:21 Long Zheng:
9:21 Ed Bott: “I love editing XML” 9:21 Long Zheng:
9:21 Mary Jo Foley: It;s so easy, even a CEO can do it 9:21 Paul: Let me spell this out as simply as possible. This is ridiculous.
9:22 [Comment From Mark]
@paul explain your point of view please 9:22 Long Zheng: Keep scaling up, and up, and up
9:22 Ed Bott: What does it cost to scale up from 2 instances to 20 like he just did? 9:22 [Comment From Ryan]
Agreed. BlueHoo seems like Comic Chat redone for web 2.0 9:22 Ed Bott: Golf claps 9:22 [Comment From Pete]
This gets my vote for worst PDC demo ever. 9:22 Long Zheng:
9:23 LiveSide: good question, Ed, and how many CEO;s today can hit that 2 to 20 button? 9:23 Ed Bott: “Interfaces” … Drink! 9:23 Paul: Windows Azure - rollout in staged way
9:23 Paul: to summarize .. you need red shoes.
9:23 Lengthy Zheng:
9:24 Long Zheng:
9:24 Paul: Bob Muglia. Or as I often call him, “Bog Mublia”.
9:24 Mary Jo Foley: Muglia: Back to reality
9:24 Ed Bott: Muglia can haz red shooz?
9:25 Long Zheng:
9:25 LiveSide: these guys have been taking training lessons on body language and movement
9:25 Ed Bott: Wow, I want some of the coffee he was drinking before he came on stage
9:26 Long Zheng:
9:26 Mary Jo Foley: @Walter: I think Live Mesh plays via the box they showed called “Live Services.” So I think Live Services is one of the building blocks that sits on top of Azure
9:26 LiveSide: we can be snarky, but no one is doing this as an end to end system
9:26 Tom W - Neowin.net: Bob is getting excited on stage, bopping up and down
9:26 [Comment From Walter Lounsbery]
So does Live Mesh play with this other “new platform?”
9:27 Paul: I do need red shoes, so….
9:27 Paul: Bob M. is only a million times better than the last guy.
9:28 LiveSide: we live in a world of federated identities
9:28 Todd Bishop: Business details of this will be interesting. How lengthy will it take for Microsoft to recoup the cost of building out those data centers?
9:28 Rafael Rivera: Next WoW expansion on Azure platform?
9:28 Long Zheng:
9:28 Paul: Todd: A related question: How much would it cost Microsoft if it ignored the cloud?
9:28 [Comment From Dion]
lengthy. PLEASE STOP WITH THE PIC
9:29 Long Zheng: “Enable a lower cost solution for deployment of globally scaled applications”
9:29 Tom W - Neowin.net: Azure better be good or it;s another too little too late from MSFT
9:29 [Comment From Paul (not Thurrott)]
no, keep the pics flowing! there;s not enough!
9:29 [Comment From Sebastian]
no don;t stop the pics pls
9:29 [Comment From flyingk]
Long - Don;t stop posting those pics!
9:29 Mary Jo Foley: .Net Services — i think this is Zurich. for all you codename fanatics….
9:29 Ed Bott: New .NET logo looks like a blue cobra
9:30 Long Zheng: “Creating a pool of services” .NET Services
9:30 Tom W - Neowin.net: The pics will not stop, Lengthy is on a mission
9:30 Mary Jo Foley: Built in service bus is part of this
9:30 Lengthy Zheng:
9:30 LiveSide: built in scale out system of services in a service bus
9:31 Mary Jo Foley: So Zuich = service bus, access control service and workflow services (I think)
9:31 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
9:31 Mary Jo Foley: Zurich = .Net services in the cloud
9:31 [Comment From asudduth]
Will the LiveBlog be posted somewhere as an archive after the event?
9:32 Rafael Rivera: You;ll get replay archive after live blog is stopped.
9:32 Tom W - Neowin.net: Yes it will be posted as an archive
9:32 Paul: Yep
9:32 [Comment From Mark F]
This control is horrible to use, please post the archive as an html document.
9:32 Lengthy Zheng: Will do. That is possible.
9:33 [Comment From Ghedin [WinAjuda.com]]
What;s “Geneva”?
9:33 Rafael Rivera: Mary Jo?
9:33 Mary Jo Foley: Identity services is another one of the layered services in tier 2 (for those trying to keep up at home). “Geneva” enables the federation between the on premise and cloud ID services
9:33 Rafael Rivera: Nice.
9:33 Mary Jo Foley: let me get you a link for Geneva
9:33 Tom W - Neowin.net: I am sure many enterprises will not want to connect their AD externally
9:33 Lengthy Zheng:
9:33 Mary Jo Foley: Geneva:
9:34 [Comment From guest]
Will you guys go back and remove something embarrassing you;ve said?
9:34 Rafael Rivera: No, maybe we;ll prune out Paul;s comments…
9:34 Long Zheng:
9:35 [Comment From GuyWithDogs]
So where does Microsoft make money with this?
9:35 Lengthy Zheng: Tip to readers: If you don;t want the auto scrolling, you can turn it off with the circle icon.
9:35 Mary Jo Foley: They make money by charging you to host apps in their cloud (for one)
9:35 [Comment From Aaron]
Thanks Long,
Windows 7 X86!
9:35 Mary Jo Foley: just like amazon
9:35 [Comment From Saruhan]
Subscriptions = $$$ also Hard to Pirate
9:35 Ed Bott: Still no idea of how much this will cost
9:35 Paul: So this is the Apple Apps Store. For enterprises.
9:36 Rafael Rivera: “Call for a quote”
9:36 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
Azure site says, “Students and hobbyists will be able to experiment with Microsoft technology without having to deploy anything locally.” How;ll they profit from this?
9:36 [Comment From Hüseyin]
9:36 Paul: Putting AD in the cloud? I assume that;s a Bitlocker-protected RODC, right?
9:36 Lengthy Zheng: Full view
9:37 Long Zheng:
9:37 [Comment From Chess]
20 years as a developer, most in Microsoft, and I;m not sure why but this just isn;t exciting me. Silverlight was the last tech from MS excited me.
9:37 [Comment From Graham]
AD in the cloud - Brilliant when can we get it - this will be massive for large enterprises with Millions of external customers
9:37 Paul: It;s hard to get excited by a low-level platform, I guess.
9:38 Ed Bott: This identity stuff is the Holy Grail
9:38 Long Zheng: “Not worrying about partners identities” I guess identities is the big sell here.
9:38 Ed Bott: More XML!
9:39 Lengthy Zheng: Contoso is back. They;re taking over the world.
9:39 Ed Bott: I think Contoso is developing Skynet.
9:39 Lengthy Zheng:
9:41 Long Zheng:
9:41 Long Zheng: For a corporate recall website, this looks pretty cool. Don;t think its practical though.
9:42 Lengthy Zheng: Thoughts on that demo?
9:42 Paul: Just in case you guys are still awake, let;s talk about System Center.
9:42 Rafael Rivera:
9:42 Paul: @Raf: make it so, number one!
9:43 Ed Bott: That demo was massively better than Bluehoo
9:43 Tom W - Neowin.net: Average keynote, tomorrow will be more exciting
9:43 [Comment From Sam]
Are the apps hosted on MS;s servers?
9:43 Long Zheng: Yes. Azure is all MS servers.
9:43 Ed Bott:
Windows 7 tomorrow.
9:44 Mary Jo Foley:
Windows 7 might be more demo friendly than this. But this is Microsoft;s future, imho
9:44 Paul: I hope there;a a bluehoo-
windows 7 tie-in
9:44 Rafael Rivera: If only AMD had a future… :(
9:44 Paul: MJF: you;re right of course
9:44 Paul: And so are you Raf :(
9:44 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
Is it a public beta? Or will someone need to leak it :P
9:45 LiveSide: Agreed,MJ This may sound dry but it;s the future built from the ground up
9:45 Rafael Rivera: “Azure development fabric in Visual Studio”
9:45 Ed Bott: MJ is right. But they could have done much better demos.
9:46 Paul: Yes.
9:46 Paul: Nothing like a buzz-kill at 9 am on Day One.
9:46 Ed Bott: Bluehoo may go down in history as EFD…
9:46 Ed Bott: Epic Fail Demo
9:46 Paul: Ed: yep
9:47 LiveSide: lol I have an EFD story for you
9:47 Paul: Kip: Does it involve passing around laptop lids?
9:47 [Comment From Matt]
Nice dig on apple Paul!..lol
9:48 Paul: In my defense they do make it easy
9:48 Long Zheng: And I;m back. Laptop crashed.
9:49 Lengthy Zheng: Thanks to Bryant from AeroXP for helping me out.
9:49 the andyman: @Long, wondering why there was a lack of photos ;)
9:49 LiveSide: new platform of services using existing tools
9:49 Mary Jo Foley: Now we;re talking Oslo — MS modeling strategy
9:49 Paul: Long: And I thought they smelled bad on the outside!
9:49 Lengthy Zheng:
9:50 Paul: Oslo,
Windows 7 64bit!
9:50 Paul: Reminds Bob of 1992;s NT announcement
9:50 Mary Jo Foley: Yes. So Oslo is 3 things: The M language; the visual tool and the repository
9:50 Paul: “no one will use it for ten years”
9:50 LiveSide: potential for same kind of impact
9:50 Ed Bott: I remember that 1992 PDC. I am, apparently, old.
9:51 LiveSide: yes but in ten yrs they will own
9:51 Paul: David Thompson is the man
9:51 Paul: Is it me or is this guy Magnum PI?
9:52 Long Zheng:
9:52 LiveSide: running IT can be a disproportionate burden, if IT is not core to the business
9:53 [Comment From Skip]
Paul: you already had Pervez Musharaff and Young John McCain [Muglia] on stage.
9:53 Mary Jo Foley: @ Tom: Tomorrow is Live Mesh day. and also Win 7 day
9:53 Paul: well it is halloween
9:53 LiveSide: need for highest availability and highest security is more than enterprise can dliver
9:53 Mary Jo Foley: Today is all the foundation stuff
9:53 Ed Bott: Microsoft Online Services debuted last year, yes?
9:54 Paul: MJF: This division makes sense. but they should have spelled that out in advance.
9:54 Mary Jo Foley: Yes. Online Services debuted last year
9:54 Lengthy Zheng:
9:54 Paul: MOS debuted last year, but it;s not broadly available even now.
9:54 Mary Jo Foley: So Thompson just said ALL MS enterprise software is going to be available as an Online Service
9:54 Ed Bott: All enterprise aoftware will be available as online service from today on
9:54 LiveSide: “easier to buy” no one has talked about costs yet
9:54 Ed Bott: Wow.
9:54 Mary Jo Foley: So that means not just Exchange Online and SharePoint Online
9:54 Paul: MSJ: As it should be. MOS is the future of Exchnge, etc.
9:55 Ed Bott: And CRM
9:55 Mary Jo Foley: But even System Center Online, Forefront Security Online, etc.
9:55 [Comment From Tony]
MOS is good for Partners.
9:55 Ed Bott:
Windows 7 Enterprise?
9:55 [Comment From Manan]
seems like MS has finally taken up the challenge by Google big time, nice!
9:55 Paul: Dynamics CRM is already part of MOS I think
9:57 Mary Jo Foley: @ Saruhan: “This is looking more like Services + Software and less Software + Services” — interesting observation
9:57 [Comment From Adam]
CRM Online:
9:57 Paul: Yes… I think teh future will lean more to the services side.
9:57 [Comment From Imran Hussain]
Windows Strata = Windows Azure??
9:57 LiveSide: We talked more about red shoes than we;re talking about MS Online Services ;)
9:57 Long Zheng: Nice catch Imran. Strata was renamed to Azure.
9:58 [Comment From scott]
S&P500 up 0.5% today … MSFT down 3.5%
9:58 Mary Jo Foley: Yes. Dynamics CRM Online is one of the online services,
Windows 7 Product Key, too
9:58 Lengthy Zheng:
9:58 Long Zheng: Really complicated graphcs, start.
9:58 [Comment From jim]
How many people are watching this live blog?
9:58 Lengthy Zheng: About 2500 at this moment.
9:59 [Comment From Simon]
Any mention of any other Dynamics ecosystem apps?
9:59 Mary Jo Foley: @ Simon: Nothing explicitly. But given what Thompson just said, I am sure Dynamics ERP Online stuff is in the game plan
10:00 [Comment From Varuna Singh]
I fear Microsoft will become like IBM was .. not consumer focused and just business and lost dev. focused.
10:00 Paul: this is really just an extension of mix and matching MOS + local servers. which makes sense.
10:00 [Comment From Waethorn]
Ok, great for enterprises….what about the SMB space? Hosted SBS/EBS in the future?
10:00 Paul: SBS should be hosted right now.
10:01 Mary Jo Foley: @ Varuna: Funny. I feel like the opposite. I feel like MS has become consumer-obsessed lately and kind of neglecting the enterprise…. Today;s keynote is unusual
10:01 Paul: Putting a complicated server in the typical small business no longer makes sense in many cases
10:01 Rafael Rivera: Windows Services Connector being demoed. Requires DNS, display name, and certificate to verify ownership of domain.
10:01 LiveSide: Right Paul,esp with vastly increasing pwr consumption costs and needs
10:01 Ed Bott: Still no mention of prices/costs, not even a hint
10:01 Mary Jo Foley: @ Senkwe: Yes, they have talked about SQL Server Data Services. SSDS is now renamed SQL Services
10:02 Rafael Rivera: @Paul: Do you have that Server 2008 wallpaper in the demo?
10:02 Paul: no. not yet
10:02 Long Zheng:
10:02 [Comment From sparky]
pricing all seems < $15 a user
10:02 Mary Jo Foley: SQL Services is part of tier 2 — the Azure services layer of foundational services
10:02 Rafael Rivera: @Picture: Windows Services Connector
10:02 Paul: I have to say I;m kind of pumped about the enterprise services online stuff.
10:03 LiveSide: Federated ID services that “just work”
10:03 [Comment From Daniel]
This is all really confusing for a consumer, I;m sure though that developers are loving this
10:05 Paul: This is all enterprise/developer stuff
10:05 LiveSide: Daniel, yes it may be confusing, but the way this stuff works now is WAY more confusing - for moving to a services driven model, having one interface of understandable tools (for devs) is very big, imho
10:06 Mary Jo Foley: Right, Paul. Tomorrow is more for consumers. Tomorrow is
Windows 7 day. Today is NOT about Win 7 or Live Mesh (just to reiterate for folks who are asking when they are going to demo these things)
10:06 Long Zheng: This is pretty cool. Office Word integration with CRM, then publish to Sharepoint. No server setup.
10:06 Rafael Rivera: I like the developer stuff, after all I write code, but I really wish I had the bits in front of me. The download links are all down, rawr!
10:06 Paul: HULK SMASH
10:06 Mary Jo Foley: There were rumors we;d see a demo of Office 14 at PDC. Maybe that;s tomorrow too…?
10:06 Ed Bott: “Our new favorite color, azure blue.”
10:07 [Comment From Graham]
Paul - yes it;s called the Professional developers confrence - the clue is in the name
10:07 Paul: LOL. thanks.
10:07 Ed Bott: @mj: I would bet on it - perhaps even in Sinofsky;s session
10:07 Lengthy Zheng:
10:07 Long Zheng: Screenshot of the custom Office integration UI. Very slick.
10:08 Ed Bott: That;s a very nice SharePoint skin
10:08 Long Zheng:
10:08 Lengthy Zheng: Slick Silverlight business app online.
10:09 [Comment From Saruhan]
Anyone else hate car dashboard style gauges?
10:09 LiveSide: Back to Ray Ozzie
10:09 Ed Bott: Winding down
10:09 Ed Bott: Will Ray take Q&A?
10:09 Tom W - Neowin.net: Nothing wow about that keynote
10:09 LiveSide: Jeff Sandquist gave us t shirts that say “The Ozzman Cometh”
10:09 Lengthy Zheng:
10:10 [Comment From Soulhuntre]
1 GB per user for $15 is simply not cost effective vs google apps
10:10 [Comment From Altrus Edwards]
10:10 Paul: I have to say, I don;t feel they did a very effective job of rolling this out. I will have to look this stuff over in the clear light of day, but right now… eh.
10:10 [Comment From Guest]
these all links are not working
10:10 Long Zheng: Maybe they;re down
10:10 Rafael Rivera: “Sit down and write some code” — Yes,
Office Enterprise 2007 Key, GIVE US A SDK!
10:10 Long Zheng: Starting at noon today.
10:10 Tom W - Neowin.net: There;s nothing amazing about this, it;s literally a platform. We knew this was coming but I personally expected something that would stand out
10:11 [Comment From Koshdukai]
is working
10:11 Paul: Tom: Yep
10:11 LiveSide: Azure.com
10:11 Rafael Rivera: @Tom: Like red shoes?
10:11 Paul: Shoes should have been blue.
10:11 Tom W - Neowin.net: Red shoes would be good
10:11 [Comment From Oleg]
What exactly did you expect from a platform announcement?
10:11 Tom W - Neowin.net: Blue to go with Azure, just make sure your pronounce it correctly
10:11 Mary Jo Foley: During the CTP, it;s free
10:11 Tom W - Neowin.net: Oh yey, don;t charge us for a beta, Thanks
10:11 Long Zheng: Well in a way, the iPhone is a platform, and that announcement for developers was pretty interesting for end-users.
10:11 Paul: “Azure.” “God bless you!”
10:11 LiveSide: intentially conservative in the way we roll out, ctp is free
10:12 Ed Bott: “Functionality may very well change as a result of your feedback, so no charge during preview”
10:12 Paul: Long: Exactly.
10:12 Mary Jo Foley: No time frame for commercial release announced
10:12 Paul: Does Microsoft usually charge for a CTP?
10:12 LiveSide: golive license?
10:12 Long Zheng: Pricing and models “will be competitive with the marketplace”.
10:12 Mary Jo Foley: Resource consumption + service level determines the pricing for Azure
10:12 [Comment From Paulo Razza]
This was a great thing announced today, it kills me that you guys don;t appreciate this cause your not technical enough.. PAINFUL to watch this livefeed! MarJo you were the only one really to give value to this stream of conversation
10:13 Lengthy Zheng: Thanks for the feedback Paulo. We;ll take it into consideration.
10:13 Ed Bott: Pricing will be competitive wih marketplace?
10:13 Rafael Rivera: Ricavision charges for betas, right Ed?
10:13 Todd Bishop: Ozzie: Normal 0
When it is released commercially, costs primarily derived from apps resource consumption and a specific service level we agree to provide. Competitive with marketplace and variety of service models.
10:13 Paul: lol. yeah, that;s why we don;t appreciate this.
10:13 [Comment From Adrian]
10:13 Ed Bott: “Tomorrow we shift gears a bit”
10:13 Paul: Infrastructure vs. Experiences.
10:14 Mary Jo Foley: Tomorrow: Client OS and developing for Web and client
10:14 Paul: they should have mixed it up more over the two days
10:14 Lengthy Zheng: Few surprises…
10:14 Mary Jo Foley: Surprises tomorrow! Office 14 demo!
10:14 Ed Bott: No questions
10:14 Paul: The only surprise today was how conservative it all was.
10:14 Rafael Rivera: [Fin.]
10:14 Tom W - Neowin.net: That;s all folks
10:14 Paul: … And the crowd goes … well, they;re just leaving.
10:14 Mary Jo Foley: Thanks everyone for participating. Come back tomorrow for another 2 live blogs from us. Win 7 show and then Box/Anderson on Oslo
10:14 Tom W - Neowin.net: One clap in the press room
10:14 LiveSide: woohoo made it through the first keynote, good job Coveritlive and MS wifi
10:15 Ed Bott: Actually I am impressed with the platform but not with the way they sold it today
10:15 Long Zheng:
10:15 Paul: ed: exactly
10:15 Ed Bott: Bye everyone
10:15 Lengthy Zheng: Goodbye all. Thanks for joining.
10:15 Paul: Good night Detroit
10:15 Tom W - Neowin.net: Bye everyone, same time same place tomorrow but a lot better keynote we expect
10:15 Long Zheng: See you tomorrow at 8.30.
10:15 [Comment From mdsharpe]
Thanks bloggers! Great work
10:15 [Comment From TekDragon]
Thanks again. Great Job
10:15 [Comment From Sarah Perez]
please integrate more user comments next time - the ones you picked had great value to me
10:16 [Comment From Martijn Brant]
Great .. now start reading email
10:16 [Comment From Saruhan]
+1 on comments
10:16 [Comment From Jay]
zzzz… wha? is it over? ;-) 10:16 [Comment From nathan]
i wish pictures could be viewed seperate from the blog feed…
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