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Old 11-04-2011, 07:43 PM   #1
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David Icke is definitely helping to awaken the masses and I truly am grateful for his efforts, however he is not infallible, and people should have the freedom to criticize him.
Of course others are free to disagree with what others say, but if we are all campaigning for freedom of speech, then we should allow others to have the same right, even when, in fact especially when they disagree with what we think.
We all know democracy is a fallacy; however we should at least uphold the principles behind it if thats what we stand for, i.e. equality and freedom for all.
Here is what Ivan Fraser said regarding Icke:
"My own role in the Biggest Secret saga was that I was asked by David to help him check spelling and offer any further information to his initial draft of the book.
It was following my input that David was introduced to Arizona and heard her revelations, which subsequently became a focal point within the book and used as evidence to support various themes outlined therein.
Having discussed my concerns with Davids wife and having sent David e-mails outlining my concerns over errors in his book and a feeling I have that he has been set up with misinformation and been the target of psychic manipulation, over a period from before publication to very recently (September 1999), and as yet having absolutely no feedback from David about any of the major concerns, I decided to publish my findings at the David Icke website forum.
Consequently, I was banned from attending that forum by David Icke."
Now I dont know how much of this is true, however if it is, this is absolutely disgraceful.
The moderators on this forum should be ashamed of themselves.
How dare they censor others when they too demand the right to be heard?
I have had several threads shut down myself regarding the "DAVID ICKE LEGAL DEFENSE FUND" which despite several communications with forum moderators, I am still highly suspect of. We were told we would hear the full story one day, and so far have been told nothing.
I personally donated over L100 to this cause, and I feel that I, as well as everybody else who donated to the fund, deserve a full explanation of what happened.
Here is what I found on Google regarding the defense fund.
"Icke claimed via his website that Richard Warman (from Canada) was filing a lawsuit against him, because of what David Icke had written about him in one of his books (Children of the Matrix), David was asking people to donate money to his Legal Defense Fund during this time period.
Eventually he removed the donation pages from his website, but never announced the outcome of the 'court case'. Did Richard Warman withdraw his threat to take David to court, or did he go ahead with it?
That in a nutshell was what I politely asked via his forum.
The next day, not only was my post removed from the forum, but my username was totally deleted.
It's laughable.
Since then, there has been another court case involving 'Royal Adams', a person, who we are told, used to work closely with David Icke."
Now, a couple of years back I opened a forum regarding the first case, within minutes I had 50+ responses from people in agreement.
An hour later, the thread was closed down.
Why?jocuri cu motociclete
I also received personal message from 6 other individuals saying that their threads on the same subject had also been shut down; in fact one member said he was never going to use the David Icke forum again and I have never seen or heard from him again.
Recently, I opened another thread on the same subject, which was closed within minutes.
I spoke to the moderator who said that this had been discussed in detail before and that there was no need to reopen it.
He also said that there were so many people criticizing and pointing accusations at David Icke, that this would only add fuel to the fire.
Now thats fair enough, but I still argue my right to be heard.
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